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• [Foutage de gueule ?] “Il embauche 50 informaticiens mais manque de candidats” (Ouest France)
par Sdu56, le 5 novembre 2015
" Par contre, toujours sur Ouest France Entreprise, un autre article datant du 09 Septembre 2014 existe : http://www.entreprises.ouest-france.fr/article

• [Foutage de gueule ?] “Il embauche 50 informaticiens mais manque de candidats” (Ouest France)
par Sdu56, le 5 novembre 2015
" Bonjour, je n'ai de lien pour l'instant malheureusement, car ce nouvel article a été publié dans la version papier du journal Ouest France, édition (...)

• [Foutage de gueule ?] “Il embauche 50 informaticiens mais manque de candidats” (Ouest France)
par MUNCI, le 5 novembre 2015
" Merci, Sdu56, pour votre message. Pourriez-vous nous indiquer dans quel média vous avez vu ce "renouvellement de campagne", comme vous dites, de (...)

Pénurie d’informaticiens : un mythe planétaire ?
Publié le 15 mai 2011, mis à jour le 4 novembre 2015
Rubrique : ACTUS, INFOS > Emploi, Marché(s) > Etudes, généralités
Mots-clés : (Pseudo) pénurie d’informaticiens
Nombre de visiteurs uniques : 4019 • Lien pérenne : https://munci.org/article1729.html

Source(s) : MUNCI, 15.05.2011, MàJ 04.11.2015
Après la France, le mythe de la “pénurie d’informaticiens” est également en train de tomber en Grande Bretagne et en Australie. De même, il est vivement contesté par des économistes aux USA (sur fond du traditionnel débat pro ou anti-immigration…) et, dans une moindre mesure, au Québec et en Allemagne.
Vers la fin d’une mystification planétaire ?

Grande-Bretagne :

  • Computer science graduates have highest unemployment rate (Computerweekly, 14.01.2015) :
    « UK computer science students have the highest rate of unemployment among all disciplines, according to stats from the National Centre for Universities and Business (NCUB). The NCUB revealed 13% of computer science students are still unemployed six months after graduating, compared with an average of 8% across all subjects. »
  • ICT apprenticeship placements fall, while the number of applicants increases (Computerweekly, 11.12.2014) :
    « The number of people starting ICT apprenticeships has plummeted, despite a surge in applicants fighting for positions at tech companies.
    According to a report by government body the Skills Funding Agency, only 13,060 people started ICT apprenticeships in 2013/14, a decline of 33% from the previous year. In 2011/12, 19,520 students were recorded to have started apprenticeships. »
  • Exploding the myth of the UK “skills gap” (Computing.co.uk, 02.03.2012) :
    « The skills gap seems to be mythical, or at least artificial. As a recruiter I have not had any trouble finding good applicants for developer jobs.
    The article also says that there are more senior jobs than applicants ; in fact for any senior role there are likely to be several hundred applicants. Typically there are 300 applicants for every IT manager position and that has been so for at least the past 10 years, barring a brief excursion to 500-plus in 2001.
    A lot of the key IT skills are vested in people who got fed up and decided that driving minicabs was better money for less stress. Next time you take a minicab, particularly in the south-west, ask your driver what they did before. You might then ask why so many people with sufficient commercial skills to become self-employed have all left IT. »

    Australie :
  • Australian IT sector sees skills glut (zdnet.com, 28.01.2015) :
    « New research by the Australian Department of Employment has shown that the domestic information technology market is a long way from experiencing a skills shortage, with an average of almost 50 applicants per advertised job in the sector. »

    U.S.A :
  • Guestworkers in the high-skill U.S. labor marketAn analysis of supply, employment, and wage trends (Economic Policy Institute, avril 2013)
    « Our examination of the IT labor market, guestworker flows, and the STEM (ndlr : Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) education pipeline finds consistent and clear trends suggesting that the United States has more than a sufficient supply of workers available to work in STEM occupations »
  • Robert J. Samuelson : Skilled worker shortage mostly a myth (The Washington Post, 05.05.2013) :
    « If shortages were widespread, Burtless and other economists argue, wages would be rising rapidly as employers competed for scarce skilled workers. There’s scant evidence of this. (…) Among computer programmers, inflation-adjusted wages have remained flat for a decade, says a study by the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank. (…)
    So, what explains more vacancies at given unemployment levels ? The answer almost certainly involves employers, not workers. Businesses have become more risk-averse. They’re more reluctant to hire. They’ve raised standards. For many reasons, they’ve become more demanding and discriminating. (…) The chief victims of this shift in business behavior seem to be the long-term unemployed (more than six months)… »
  • America’s Genius Glut (The New-York Times, 07.02.2013) :
    « If anything, we have too many high-tech workers : more than nine million people have degrees in a science, technology, engineering or math field, but only about three million have a job in one. That’s largely because pay levels don’t reward their skills. Salaries in computer- and math-related fields for workers with a college degree rose only 4.5 percent between 2000 and 2011.
    If these skills are so valuable and in such short supply, salaries should at least keep pace with the tech companies’ profits, which have exploded. And while unemployment for high-tech workers may seem low — currently 3.7 percent — that’s more than twice as high as it was before the recession.
    If there is no shortage of high-tech workers, why would companies be pushing for more ? Simple : workers under the H-1B program aren’t like domestic workers — because they have to be sponsored by an employer, they are more or less indentured, tied to their job and whatever wage the employer decides to give them. Moreover, too many are paid at wages below the average for their occupation and location : over half of all H-1B guest workers are certified for wages in the bottom quarter of the wage scale.
    Bringing over more — there are already 500,000 workers on H-1B visas — would obviously darken job prospects for America’s struggling young scientists and engineers. But it would also hurt our efforts to produce more : if the message to American students is, “Don’t bother working hard for a high-tech degree, because we can import someone to do the job for less,” we could do significant long-term damage to the high-tech educational system we value so dearly. »
  • Re : “America’s Genius Glut”) : (The New-York Times, The OpinionPages, 17.02.2013) :
    « (…) these organizations do not truly want scientists. Instead, they want highly skilled technicians who are trained to use the latest technologies in exactly the manner dictated by the organization. Five years later when the technology changes, they will be discarded. They will be replaced by the newest crop of workers, who are trained in the latest technologies and, best of all, will work for lower wages than the previous crop. »

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